Stock FAQs

shotgun shoots low how do i adjust the stock to fix

by Mrs. Thora Rath Published 3 years ago Updated 2 years ago

If you can adjust the stock, take the comb of the stock down to bring point of impact down. To make it shoot more to the right, take the comb of the stock to the right. Also check the way you mount your gun.

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How to adjust point of impact on shotgun?

Point of Impact on Shotgun - Adjust Stock or Rib? I shot with Bobby Chamber ( Wenig Gun Stocks) in Tucson recently and it was interesting top hear from an expert on adjusting the point of impact on a shotgun. Bobby stated that you change the impact point by raising or lowering the comb on the shotgun.

How do you adjust the stock on a trap gun?

How to Adjust the Stock on a Trap Gun. This is accomplished chiefly by adjusting the comb, the portion of the stock on which the shooter's cheek rests. Adjustable combs provide both up/down and left/right adjustment. A stock of the correct length with a properly adjusted comb allows the shooter to see straight down the rib of the shotgun.

How do you adjust the stock on a Beretta shotgun?

If you want to make your gun shoot higher, you make the stock higher. If you want to move the pattern to the right, move the stock to the right. It’s like the rear sight on a rifle. On Beretta gas guns, the stock shim sets (front plastic ring and rear steel washer) indicate height and cast.

Does stock adjustment affect the pattern of a gun?

Here’s the real deal on any kind of stock adjustment: stock adjustment has absolutely NO effect on where your gun places its pattern IF (note big “if”) you maintain the same sight picture. Example- let’s say that your stock is real low for you. You have to sort of pick your head up a bit to look flat down the rib.

What is drop and cast adjustment?

5:4712:40Benelli 828U Shim System: Adjusting Drop and Cast - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipDown if you want to take the gun to the right you increase the cast. Off take the stock to the rightMoreDown if you want to take the gun to the right you increase the cast. Off take the stock to the right like you would a rifle sight.

What does shimming a shotgun do?

The 98 cents' worth of plastic shims that came with your new $1,800 semiauto might be the most important part of the whole shotgun. Stock shims let you fine-tune cast and drop to get a perfect fit—and make your new gun almost a part of you.

What is drop at heel on shotgun?

Drop at Heel: extent of vertical offset between the top of the barrels (rib) and the heel of the butt-stock. Cast: extent of offset left (cast on) or right (cast off) between the midline of the barrels and the center of the butt.

What is cast on a shotgun?

Simply put, cast refers to the deviation of the butt away from the center line of the gun. A shotgun with no cast is straight and a line down the rib will continue straight down the center of the butt stock, when viewed from above.

How do shotgun stock shims work?

0:132:12SA-08 SHOTGUN | STOCK SHIMS EXPLAINED - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipThese are inserted where the buttstock in the receiver meet and they're there to help the shooterMoreThese are inserted where the buttstock in the receiver meet and they're there to help the shooter better fit the shotgun to themselves and their shooting style.

How do I get better at Shotgunning?

Shotgunning beer is supposed to be fun – so keep it that way by not overdoing it. Remember that you'll be drinking beer far more quickly than usual. That means the alcohol will hit your bloodstream faster and take effect faster too. Set yourself a limit before you start drinking, and stick to it.

What is drop on a shotgun stock?

2:314:17Adjusting the angle of your drop - Go Shooting Shotgun Coaching VideosYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipNow make these monte carlo stocks with combs that have the traditional 10 millimeters. And up to 20MoreNow make these monte carlo stocks with combs that have the traditional 10 millimeters. And up to 20 millimeters of drop from front to back because simply this angle helps many shooters fit the comb.

How a shotgun should fit?

Length: The shotgun stock should fit such that the butt pad can be placed in the “pocket” of the shoulder-the high pectoral muscle well inside the shoulder joint. The chest and shoulders should be square, that is, perpendicular to the shotgun. The firing side shoulder can roll forward, locking the buttstock into place.

What is the stock on a shotgun?

A gunstock or often simply stock, the back portion of which is also known as a shoulder stock, a buttstock or simply a butt, is a part of a long gun that provides structural support, to which the barrel, action, and firing mechanism are attached.

How much can you bend a shotgun stock?

Typically, we can achieve bends up to ⅜”, though every stock is different.

What is pitch on a shotgun?

What is Pitch? When discussing long guns, pitch is the angle at which the recoil pad sits on the stock to direct the actual recoil generated when the rifle or shotgun is fired.

What happens if your stock is too short?

If the stock length is too short, you’re likely to feel more recoil and have less control when handling the gun. When it comes to temporary solutions for remedying a short stock, a slip on recoil pad can be helpful and some come with different sized foam inserts which allow you to extend the stock by different lengths.

Where is drop measured on a gun?

Drop is measured in three places – at the face, at the comb and at the heel although the latter two are the most common. See the diagram above for a visual of where the points are on the gun. Also note the degree of pitch on the diagram, this is a measurement of the angle between the line of the butt and the line of the rib.

How to check for cast issues?

To check for cast issues, get back in front of the mirror (again with a proven empty and safe gun) and see if your eye sits centrally on the rib of the gun (without having to roll your head). The image below shows the correct position plus two wrong positions.

What is the correct gun fit?

Correct gun fit is one of the three fundamental building blocks to successful shotgun shooting. We have already covered the other two – eye dominance and gun mount so this article completes the foundation series.

What should the iris be on a gun?

The iris should sit central and directly on top it of it, like this: If you see any of the below, the drop on your gun is either too much or too little. If your eye sits too high in relation to the rib, seek advice from a good gunsmith as alterations to the stock may be needed.

How long is a shotgun pull?

Typically, this will range anywhere from 14 1/4″ to 15 1/2″ for a gun designed to be used by an adult.

How to tell if a gun is too long?

A sign that the length is too long is if when mounting the gun, you aren’t able to mount the gun into the shoulder pocket but instead it ends up being mounted on the end of your arm.

Does a cast off gun cause face slap?

The gun recoils straight back, but the stock is at an angle to the face and hits the cheek instead of sliding along it. Too little cast off almost never causes face slap, though it will (as you properly surmise) cause a righty to shoot to the left.

Does increasing cast off make slap worse?

Increasing cast off may make this worse, not better. Although you may need cast off (or a slight change in shooting style) to adjust your pattern, increasing cast off tends to increase cheek slap, not decrease it. Every 682 that I have seen has come through with at least 1/8″ cast off at heel and a bit more at toe.

Is stock bending exact?

Stock bending is a one shot affair and is never exact. Sanding is exact. Of course, you will have to restain and refinish. You might also consider asking your stocker if the supports of the cheek piece could be reworked to give you additional adjustment room.

What happens if you have adjustable comb on a gun?

If you have a gun that only has the adjustable comb you are stuck with what ever sight picture the height of the comb gives you. If you have both you make your comb adjustment and leave your head at the same position and then adjust the rib to what sight picture you want.

What happens if you don't move the comb?

If you do not move the comb, lower the front of the rib and/or raise the rear, point of impact will be higher. If I was selling stocks, I would tell everyone that was the only way to change point of impact too.

Can you move the point of impact on a GoldEx?

GoldEx. The point of impact can only be moved on an adjustable rib if you raise or lower the front bead. The rest of the rib does not matter at all. You raise the front bead, and do nothing else, you will shoot lower. You lower the front bead and do nothing else, the gun will shoot higher.

Does adjustable rib change point of impact?

The adjustable rib does not change the point of impact. After you set the point of impact the way you like, 60/40, 90/10 or what ever you like, you simply use the adjustable rib to select the sight picture you like to see. Don't believe it go to a patterning board, the proof is in the results!

Does a higher rib make a rifle shoot higher?

A higher rib, with raising the stock for the same sight picture won't make it shoot high. Your head is like the rear sight on a rifle, raise it up, shoot high, the front bead is like a front sight on a rifle lower it, you have to raise the muzzle up to line it up, so it will shoot higher. It has to. H.

Does raising a comb change POI?

Any time you raise or lower the comb, or raise or lower the front bead, you change POI. It is as simple as that.#N#To add to what Neil said, even if your rib pivots at the front, the front bead may still move a bit, and that will affect POI, albeit not by much. It's really basic math.

How to make your gun shoot higher?

The basic rule of thumb is that your point of impact moves in the same direction that you move your stock. If you want to make your gun shoot higher, you make the stock higher. If you want to move the pattern to the right, move the stock to the right. It’s like the rear sight on a rifle.

How to shoot 50/50?

You have to sort of pick your head up a bit to look flat down the rib. When you do look flat down the rib, the gun shoots 50/50. Now you raise the stock a good bit. But, by scrunching your face down hard on the stock, you can still look flat down the rib. The gun will still shoot 50/50 for you.

What happens if you see more ribs on a gun?

If you see more rib, your gun will shoot higher, less rib is lower. Moving the stock will change your rib sight picture if you maintain a constant cheek pressure on the stock and just forget about the rib. Shoot off the front of the gun, not the rib.

How does moving a stock up affect the point of impact?

The ONLY way that moving a stock up, down or sideways will affect the point of impact is if you change your sight picture on the rib.

What does D stand for in a rifle?

D is for “dexter” or “right”. With the D shim in place the stock is shifted to the right and point of impact will move to the right. It’s supposed to be able to accommodate a right handed shooter and permit him to shoot with his head up, rather than turned slightly into the stock.

How to shoot a trap gun?

Step 1. Take the trap gun to a shooting range. Fire one shot at a shotgun pattern board from a distance of 30 yards. A tight choke should be installed on the barrel.

What is an adjustable comb?

Adjustable combs provide both up/down and left/right adjustment. A stock of the correct length with a properly adjusted comb allows the shooter to see straight down the rib of the shotgun. Adjustable combs are standard on many trap guns or may be added to existing stocks.

What is a trap gun?

Trap guns are shotguns designed for shooting clay pigeons. The typical American trap gun is a single-barrel or double-barrel 12-gauge model. Trap gun stocks conform to the shooter's shoulder and face in specific ways to influence eye position and aim.

How to alter vertical impact of pattern?

Alter the vertical impact of the pattern by adding or subtracting plastic spacers supplied with the adjustable comb. Raising the adjustable comb raises the impact point and lowering the adjustable comb lowers the impact point.

Why Is Gun Fit Important?

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If you have figured out your dominant eye and have settled with a method to work with it and practised your mount so that you’re consistently mounting to the correct place each time then the final thing you need in order to shoot where you look is a well fitted gun. It’s this simple, if your gun doesn’t fit then you won’t shoot straight…
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Gun Fitting Terminology

  • If cast, drop, pitch, length, comb, toe, rib and heel all make you scratch your head and want to run a mile, wait! Read on and all will become clear… Firstly, it will help if we break the above into two distinct categories. 1. The physical parts of the shotgun which are important to gun fit 2. The measurements between those parts The diagrams below will help you to understand the anato…
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The Proof Is in The Pattern

  • Most shooting grounds have a pattern plate which you can ask to use. The purpose of a pattern plate is to allow you to shoot at it from certain distances with different cartridges to see how it impacts your shot pattern. One other use of a pattern plate is to aim at the centre and see whether your pattern is high, low, left or right of where you think it should be. Where possible, try to make …
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Summary

  • Hopefully you now have more of an understanding about gun fit and how/why the different measurements are used and taken. There is no substitute for spending some time with a seasoned gun fitting pro and as mentioned a number of times in this article you should absolutely do this before having any alteration work carried out on your gun. If you have been wondering ho…
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